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Bad NBTHK  Papers

The certificates are genuine, but the pictures and text have been altered.  This announcement has appeared in the last two issues of Token Bijitsu:

Please Note to Forged Certificate !

Forged certificates have been discovered.
Not only Shiteisho(指定書) and Ninteisho(認定書), but Hozon and Tokubetsu hozon kanteisho(鑑定書) as well.
We suport ledger queries over telephone, however we propose "The Actual confirmation" that you bring the item(sword) and deed(paper) to museum to any certainty.
for "The actual confirmation" visitors, Please contact our Administration in advance.
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* Shiteisho (Juyo-token) 重要刀剣指定書
* Ninteisho (Kicho/Tokubetsukicho/Koshu-Tokubetsukicho) 貴重、特別貴重、甲種特別貴重認定書
* Kanteisho (Hozon/Tokubetsuhozon) 保存、特別保存鑑定書

 
 
[quote="kunitaro"]This forged paper isuue has a few serious problem.
At first,
These forged Hozon/TH papers are not fake paper. they are real paper which isuued by NBTHK, just changed Oshigata (or photo) and put pressed stamp (and red stamp for oshigata) on. (so the forge maker has Stamp(s)).
so, nobody could recognize original or changed photo to oshigata papers, even dealers or museum can not recognize.
Juyo token shiteisho is easier, because, they are pulsing Juyo-Zufu, so, anybody could check the Oshigata of Juyo-zufu and the sword. but, the only way to check Hozon and Tokubetsuhozon kanteisho will be referring Ledger in NBTHK. and contents of the ledger is not open to public. ( I confirmed this with NBTHK.)
All swords in Japan have Torokusho, so they could check with Torokusho number, but, the swords outside of Japan has no Torokusho, so, by telephone with NBTHK, we can check only characteristic sword, such as unique horimono or shape etc,.
If simple signed, shinogi-zukuri without Hi,Ubu one hole with same length blade, or Osuriage mumei blades….without Torokusho number…..they are no way to verify by phone.
 
and the second,
When NBTHK find a forged paper, when the sword come to submit higher paper, they will return the sword and (invalid) paper back to the sender (with a letter that said the sword is not much with our ledger).
They will not examine the blade (because the blade is not match with their document) and free of charge, They just return to the sender.
If the sword (nakago) and oshigata of the paper is matched. then you find out the oshigata has changed…..This is happening sometime.
some swords has confirmed by NBTHK more than one time, but, NBTHK is still returning paper and sword back to the sender…..
(I confirmed this with NBTHK.)
The most of cases, the owner of the sword who find out forged paper, he will sell it to dealers or auction, and dealers sell them within a few days. After a few hands, the sword and paper become normal item again...
so, they are keep coming back into market, until someone try to submit higher paper… then the problem again, and goes back to market,,,,
 
How many of them ? we never know…
Because, we have never heard any news of arrested fake sword/paper maker or scandal/incidents since new Hozon/Tokubetsuhozon system late 1970' something.
Fake maker(s?) are very professional and they have never cut.
so they should be still active (since long time).
 

A bit furthermore,
I think that they(NBTHK) are trying to avoid their responsibility by publishing "warning (note to forged certificate)"on Tokenbijutsu journal.
After they proposed "The actual confirmation",  Our trading the sword with Hozon and Tokubetsuhozon paper without "The Actual confirmation" will be our own risk ?
 
The fake maker benefit once when they make one and sold, then it makes multiple victims, because, they are always coming back to market again….NBTHK has never recall, as old papers…..
(Many of old paper's swords have been modern shinsa and failed, then come back on market with old papers..)
Forged Hozon/TH paper are now like Jokers in the cards.
and the market outside of Japan will be recessive, because, less information and less advantage of "The Actual confirmation" of NBTHK etc.,
The official certificate should be like this.
I think that NBTHK should consider about this matter more seriously, to solve the problem(s), not only publishing "warning".[/quote]

                                                                                                                                                              

 

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